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	<description>Not Just For Breakfast Anymore
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.productbehavior.com/archive/stop-growing-already/comment-page-1#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points Aaron!

It all comes down to being public. All of that warm and fuzzy went out the window when they started chasing quarterly results. 

Once you have to pacify that beast, I imagine selling your soul or &quot;selling out&quot; has to be part of the retail matrix. I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing a large amount of share buybacks announced considering the current share price. 

Thanks,

Eric
TheDripp.blogspot.com - All Starbucks, All The Time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Aaron!</p>
<p>It all comes down to being public. All of that warm and fuzzy went out the window when they started chasing quarterly results. </p>
<p>Once you have to pacify that beast, I imagine selling your soul or &#8220;selling out&#8221; has to be part of the retail matrix. I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing a large amount of share buybacks announced considering the current share price. </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Eric<br />
TheDripp.blogspot.com &#8211; All Starbucks, All The Time!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.productbehavior.com/archive/stop-growing-already/comment-page-1#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric,

Thanks for finding me!

For me, the point is that a company who wants to own their brand must tightly control it. I&#039;ll remember that bad cup of coffee. I&#039;ll remember seeing the Starbucks logo in the dingy convenience store. And I&#039;ll associate this special coffee with toner cartridges. At each of these points, Starbucks gave up control.

Its true that, by selling through Staples, Starbucks ends up associated with some great brands. But the company started out with a very specific vision of the relationship it wanted with consumers. Maintaining that relationship requires them to regulate as many of the consumer &quot;touchpoints&quot; as possible. Is being associated with computer companies really an advantage?

Selling through other outlets isn&#039;t a bad idea per se; they could, for example, create a sub-brand for their coffee (e.g. Pike Place Roast), give it credibility through a &quot;now served at Starbucks&quot; or whatever), and so protect the core brand.

Full disclosure: I&#039;ve done a tiny amount of work with Starbucks through a partner company of theirs, and I happen to like their product. But I believe could show a little more self-restraint when it comes to extending the brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,</p>
<p>Thanks for finding me!</p>
<p>For me, the point is that a company who wants to own their brand must tightly control it. I&#8217;ll remember that bad cup of coffee. I&#8217;ll remember seeing the Starbucks logo in the dingy convenience store. And I&#8217;ll associate this special coffee with toner cartridges. At each of these points, Starbucks gave up control.</p>
<p>Its true that, by selling through Staples, Starbucks ends up associated with some great brands. But the company started out with a very specific vision of the relationship it wanted with consumers. Maintaining that relationship requires them to regulate as many of the consumer &#8220;touchpoints&#8221; as possible. Is being associated with computer companies really an advantage?</p>
<p>Selling through other outlets isn&#8217;t a bad idea per se; they could, for example, create a sub-brand for their coffee (e.g. Pike Place Roast), give it credibility through a &#8220;now served at Starbucks&#8221; or whatever), and so protect the core brand.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I&#8217;ve done a tiny amount of work with Starbucks through a partner company of theirs, and I happen to like their product. But I believe could show a little more self-restraint when it comes to extending the brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.productbehavior.com/archive/stop-growing-already/comment-page-1#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 04:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Aaron, 

I found your posting via my newsgator feed and found it interesting. Interesting in the way two people can look at something and have two completely different opinions.

Exhibit A: Well, not much to say about that one, just an old pot of coffee, can&#039;t blame that one on the siren.

Exhibit B: Supermarket shelves can&#039;t create value, that has to be built away from that medium. If you are counting on the supermarket to build brand exclusiveness then they are doing something wrong.

Exhibit C: Staples and other office supply stores are perfect to display in and I would try and capture that business too. You boiled it down to tape and post-it notes, but they are also along side Dell, Apple, &amp; HP. Not bad company in the marketing departments.

In case your wondering, yes, I am in marketing. But it is that experience that has taught me to value the other opinion as well. Great post. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Aaron, </p>
<p>I found your posting via my newsgator feed and found it interesting. Interesting in the way two people can look at something and have two completely different opinions.</p>
<p>Exhibit A: Well, not much to say about that one, just an old pot of coffee, can&#8217;t blame that one on the siren.</p>
<p>Exhibit B: Supermarket shelves can&#8217;t create value, that has to be built away from that medium. If you are counting on the supermarket to build brand exclusiveness then they are doing something wrong.</p>
<p>Exhibit C: Staples and other office supply stores are perfect to display in and I would try and capture that business too. You boiled it down to tape and post-it notes, but they are also along side Dell, Apple, &amp; HP. Not bad company in the marketing departments.</p>
<p>In case your wondering, yes, I am in marketing. But it is that experience that has taught me to value the other opinion as well. Great post. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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